Tusen Takk wrote:so recapping this thread for people who are very much into tl;dr posts
-miners have yet to realise that theyre the reason why everything is expensive, stop pricing everything so high and being greedy and then your precious hulks will be significantly cheaper
Your average miner does not control the prices of minerals and the moon goo required to build hulks(as an example). Your alliance however does, hulkageddon is something your higher ups thought of to keep ship prices high, your alliance is as much of a reason as any other external factor so quit blaming your average high sec miner for the price of hulks, Especially when a good portion of a hulk is made out of null sec materials.
-miners tend to see themselves as victims of the terrible horrible griefer even though the griefer was the victim of the terrible horrible miner's greed first
Again an argument with no substance (surprise), many people who do not engage in industry fail to actually understand the time it takes to not only build the ships but also to ensure the bpo is researched properly. regardless hulkageddon primarily targets the high sec miner who have limited access to ores and are likely not the ones rolling out the majority of ships being sold.
Secondly being someone that has done ratting and industry I find it funny that anyone would accuse of a miner of being greedy when it is perfectly viable with decent skills to earn in excess of 60million an hour in high sec doing incursions or in null sec ratting where as there is a hard cap on miners, per toon it would be hard if not impossible for a miner (per toon) to earn around 20-30million in an hour which is half that of a ratter.
The above point highlights that miners are currently low in the food chain when it comes to isk making and that the only attraction to doing it was the fact they used to be able to simply sit back and watch a movie while mining veld.
You can blame the high sec miner all you like but the fact remains that the only people driving up mineral prices and thus ship prices are those that partake in hulkageddon not because the miner wants to spite you but because the loss of supply has upset the balance between supply and demand forcing increases in what people are willing to pay.
-miners are more likely to be angry middle aged midlife crisis types, younger kids who are new to MMOs and think ISK=real money, or hebrews who should be applying economic principles learned in eve to their real life finances instead of wasting their time on video games
Again another baseless assumption akin to the majority of your alliance, no matter what you do in a video game whether it is mining or pvping you are 'wasting time' depending on your point of view. Your actions in a video game cannot determine whether the time was well spent or not but then I do not expect you to think logically based on your statements in this post.
-goonswarm is always at fault no matter what
Something you lot take pride in, you have such a loathing for those that like to hoard isk and yet your alliance is partially responsible for setting t2 prices at fixed level as well as scamming people on a regular basis. Only yesterday was one of my alts confronted with a proposition by one of your idiotic members wanting me to join your alliance for the bargain price of 60% of my wallet in exchange for access to a vast variety of bpo's.
youre all welcome
oh ******** just realised i bumped this hardcore, my apologies